Hello, I am alive! Just haven't been on the wiki for a LONG LONG time, sorry about that!!!!! I replied to all of your previous messages. not sure if you're still interested in the responses as it's been a while but I thought I'd reply to everything anyway! Hope all's well in your life. I will hopefully reply soon!! :)
Hey Jordan!! Just wanted to update you on your character, Prim.
As you know, I accepted her onto my fan-fiction and when I did, I didn't really know how to fit her in a natural way however I did say she'd be a main character.
Now I've been writing and planning more, I've decided to make Prim a recurring character instead. I've got so much happening for the character now than I did before and she has much a bigger presence in the story. She has a big story in the earlier episodes then she's kind of absent but returns in a big way. I was originially going to have her leave after her big story but I found ways to bring her back, which keep her on but aren't forced either. Despite all this, she's still going to be a recurring character because there's lots of main characters and I feel the billing as main promises a lot of screen-time, songs, etc.
But when I accepted this character, I only saw her as minor character to be honest but she's grown into a bigger character and I'm already thinking about her future in my fan-fiction.
Helllo! Sounds great to me. Whatever role Prim has is fine with me, as long as she's in there somewhere (And even if she wasn't, your fic would still blow me away so much that I probably wouldn't even care, haha!)
Hey Jordan!!! I just want to announce I should be debuting the first episode of my fan-fiction ( next week hopefully) It's going to be Part One of episode one . It won't continue weekly or anything, it's just for a teaser.
P.S. I'm quite happy because I spoke to you about it, didn't I? About Episode One being really overlong but I didn't want to cut it into two seperate parts because there wasn't a natural place to end the first half for it to be picked up in the second half. However, after finally looking at it and having a new idea, I've added some new story elements in and I've now got the perfect cut-outt point so it's officially going to be two parts.
Hey Jack! As I said before, sorry I missed all these messages and haven't been on the wiki for a while to respond. I am alive and well, as hopefully you are too! :)
I hope it's not too late to be seeing this message. Is the first episode out yet? If it is, I'd love a link to read it, or if it's not ready yet, that's fine too - good things come to those who wait :)
Haha, yeah, you're right. Our last board was taking forever to load for me as well, and scrolling through every reply was becoming tedious a task :P
It's quite upsetting. I understand how you feel (this is slightly a different idea, but somewhat relates to what you were saying) because both my mum's parents died before I was born, and from what my mum says about them, they would have been amazing grandparents to me and my sister. The thing that is most upsetting is that my dad's mother, the one who has done lots of bad things to the family, and doesn't care much about us, is the one who is still alive. I know that sounds extremely bitter, but I still love my grandmother, it's just difficult to get over things that people to do you and others sometimes.
Once again, best wishes for you and your aunty. Hopefully everything will be alright in the end.
I know how you feel. There have been times where I have tried desperately to keep up with all my schoolwork, but it's difficult when you have so much to focus on and it's difficult work too. I've fallen behind on work a few times and I've found it very difficult to catch up to too. Also, that's a shame your teacher didn't like your work. I hate when that happens, where you truly think you've done something amazing to only be told it's not that good after all.
That's rather strange that they've been given the rights to "Let It Go", but perhaps you're right about the versions though. Hopefully, though, Disney's just given in and we'll see a few Disney performances throughout the season (In case you haven't noticed, I like wishful thinking, haha)
I think so. I couldn't get invested in a new fic either. Although there are many flaws throughout this fic, I have grown to love it, and especially the characters, because in a lot of ways, a lot of the storylines have been based off of experiences I have gone through/feelings I have had before, so I relate to the characters quite a lot.
I used to have a Word document like that too. It basically housed everything and anything relating to the fic that I needed to remember. Luckily now though, most things for me are located on the wiki :P But I still have a huge document with all of the song and episode plans for future episodes too.
I can't wait for your fic. I know it's still probably quite far off from its premiere, but I'm still really excited for it.
Honestly, Melinda was one of my favourite characters featured in your last fic, and I would have loved to see her more, so you won't be getting any flak about including lots of her, at least from me :P Also, I think it's quite important there are a few central characters that everyone can become invested in. There's rarely shows/movies where every "main" character is as equally displayed or focused on as the others. I think that's what makes fics/stories in general exciting, where you have a few central characters you learn to love and can't wait to read about each episode, and then when other "less central" characters come in and have a story, it's just as exciting, because you're getting someone new to look at, and a new story to enjoy. I really don't know if any of that made sense though. My apologies, it's Friday while I'm typing this, and I just got home from a long week of school, so I'm very tired.
That's really strange! Great minds think alike :P If you're still using the title for an episode, I can change mine, I don't mind. I actually was struggling to think of a title because this episode is sort of different to a lot of others in the sense that it doesn't really have a central theme, idea or concept most plots are based on. Like, it's kind of a bit of everything sort of episode. The title was inspired by "The New Rachel" on Glee, and my title has a few double meanings.
On another note, Marina released her new title track named "FROOT" not that long ago. It came out at 5pm in the UK, which was midnight here in Western Australian time, so stupidly, I stayed up until midnight to hear it. Then, of course, you can't just hear a new song by one of your all-time favourite singers ONCE, so I ended up staying up until about 1 in the morning listening to it, then I feel asleep, with my earphones in :P
Also, before I forget (I've been meaning to ask for quite some time now), since Robin Williams portrays Winter's dad, Leo, and since he recently passed away, I'm not sure what to do. Because although this is just a fan fic, I personally think it's a bit dishonourable to act as if he is still alive and have him continue to portray Winter's father. I'm not sure whether to either:
1) ignore the fact he has passed away and keep him alive in the fic (which I don't really want to do, because I think it's a bit harsh, but might have to).
2) I could ignore the fact he has passed away and instead just never have the character Leo appear in the fic again.
3) I could have Leo pass away in the series (although I don't really want to do this either, because then it just adds a whole heap of unneeded drama to the plot and it'd mean Winter would have to act differently for the next few episodes, which I'm not really in the mood to adjust to).
4) I could provide some other reason that Leo will not appear in the series again, apart from death.
I'm really quite puzzled about this. He's included in the next episode for the Winter storyline I have planned, but from then on, I'm not sure what to do.
Haha, yeah, we sure did write some long comments. Honestly though, I love chatting to you. It's great having someone to chat to and explain how things are going, and of course, hearing how you are. It's almost like having a pen-pal :P
I know what you mean. Like, I really despise some of the things my grandmother has done in the past, but I would never wish anything bad upon her either, like with your situation with your aunty.
That's great, I'm glad things are getting better and you're catching up with all your work! :) And yeah, enjoying writing and being able to type fast are very handy skills for a lot of things really.
Yeah, I agree. It just makes characters feel much more realistic, or at least, their thoughts and actions seem more realistic to the reader. Usually, even when things aren't based on particular things I've gone through personally, they are based on experiences and events that I have seen OTHERS partake in.
Haha, 37 scenes does sound like a lot, but like you've said, when you think about it, some of the scenes will be shorter. And I agree, don't separate the episodes if it won't work. I'd rather read a cohesive but lengthy episode over two shorter split episodes but have little content, or are difficult to understand due to needing to refer to the previous half-episode to grasp every plot/concept occurring, if that made any sort of sense. :P
That seems like a brilliant idea. Honestly, I've not really thought about that. I wrote scenes for multiple episode back when I first started, but that was because I would focus on a particular character and write all scenes sort of revolving around them, regardless of the episode, then I stopped doing that quite quickly because I was still unfamiliar about the characters (and I didn't label which episodes the scenes should go in, which meant things got a bit messed up). But I honestly think that's such a good idea, because I quite often get writer's block for a particular episode, because I'm sick of the idea/concept/plot, but if I write scenes for separate episodes, it'll be much easier to be motivated and focused on everything, so thanks for that suggestion, I will definitely do that soon.
Melinda was one of my favourite characters, not particularly because of her plot (although, I loved where you were going with her storyline), but the reason I really love her was because of her characterisation. I'm aware we never saw her complete story, but from what we saw of her, she was a humble and kind person, and the way she acted, thought and spoke made me like her. I'm really excited to see her resurrected as Marilyn. (Although, not going to lie, I'm kind of sad she's not in the premiere. But I'm sure I'll still love the premiere even without her :P)
Wow, thanks for that suggestion! How did I not just think of recasting him? I think Harrison Ford would be a great portrayer, I will change the actor name for Leo soon.
Haha, yes, I did like FROOT! :P It's a bit literal in its expressions, and it's a bit too quirky for my liking, but I still love it regardless (although, you could probably present me with any Marina song and I'd love it regardless, so I'm VERY biased!) A lot of people are outraged because it is clearly a song about love, sex, and fertility, but I honestly am not even the slightest bit upset about it. If she had said things like "f*ck me hard tonight, make it hurt" or something as animalistic as that, then sure, I would be upset that she had turned to such pointless and "mainstream" music, but because the entire idea of sex and love is completely told through metaphors, and it's a one-off, I'm okay with it.
And people are also angry that FROOT is more of an "80's funk" sort of vibe, but I think people really just need to accept the fact that if an artist did not change their style musically, they would ultimately become boring, repetitive and uninspired. I think it's great Marina is experimenting with her style, and for goodness sake, she even stated that every song to be on her new album sounds completely different, and she has previewed a snippet of a slower, piano ballad, so I don't see why people have completely given up hope. If she wants to change her style, let her. She's still as great as she's ever been.
The only reasonable annoyance I can tolerate and understand is people frustrated at her not explaining why FROOT is spelt different to "fruit". Perhaps it's just to grasp attention/be recognised, but it's still annoying, imo. I think "La Dolce Vita" or "Living La Dolce Vita" (a lyric in the song) would have made for a much better title, but perhaps that's just me.
(Sorry, I just realised how much I wrote about FROOT. I am very sorry, I sometimes forget that not everyone I talk to loves Marina as much as I do :P)
By the way, I bought Jessie J's latest album, "Sweet Talker", and I love it so much! I'm going to use a bunch of songs from it for my Jessie 2.0 episode this season. Personally, I think it's her best album yet. I'd say my ordering from favourite to least favourite goes Sweet Talker, then Who You Are (very close to ST though), then lastly Alive. To me, Alive just lacked something, I found it a bit more bland compared to her other works, although, that could just be me though.
Likewise :) It's just really freeing I think to have someone to talk or vent to.
I'm really happy with my college work now. We had to hand everything we've done in this project and now we've got a new project which has the theme of animals, which will be interesting as it's not the easier thing to draw animals . We've got to do something in 2-D so like a painting or drawing probably or screenprint and then something in 3-D and I want to do something out of paper mache (I think).
Totally get that. Like some of the stuff I write about might not just be what I've had happened to me. Sometimes it's based on things people I know have had happen to them. Sometimes the storylines just expand from me thinking what would I do if I was in that certain situation.
I think I'm gonna keep it at one big episode but If when i've finally wrote it all, I'll see if there's a part where I can end for it to naturally pick up in Part 2...if I can't find any part to seperate the first episode, It can just be big.
Funnily enough, progress is better on my second episode than my first. I've narrowed the episode to 23 scenes and I've completed 15 and a half already so I'm really pleased with myself and I think it'll be finished by time this week is over. Then I can move onto Episode 3. If i'm multi-tasking episodes, I only want to tackle two episodes at once otherwise it'll become too out-of-order.
Yeah, that's what I used to do - like choose a character and write all the scenes revolving around that character first. (It's like what I did with the Spencer-centric ep in PTS) I think it'll be a good method for you, if it works wonder for me who you know is slow with writing then IT WORKS.
Aww thanks: That's one of the things i'm sad about ending PTS is that I never got to tie Melinda's storyline up because though she didn't seem like a big focus in the beginning, she would become that eventually. Her expanding role would have been like how in Glee Season One, you had Santana and she was there and had little bits of storylines but not a big part...but in S2, it was much bigger...kind of like that.
Don't be sad, she's appearing in Episode 2. But in that episode, her part is minimal and it's only a recurring part until about, Episode 5 where she's more in the main story.
There's not a lot of the main cast in Episode 1 or 2, it takes up until Episode 6 to get everything established.
For some reason though when I read Leo in your fic, I always pictured Harrison Ford.
I just listened to FROOT and I love it, it’s my favourite Marina song I’ve heard. I love the usage of metaphors and the 80’s funk vibe.
I’m usually one of them people who get annoyed over little things like that but I can live with the fact it’s called FROOT instead of fruit. I think FROOT is much more eye-catching and more unusual.
I do like how artists reinvent themselves like P!nk for instance, she was originally an R&B singer and you could easily confuse her with a member of TLC but then she ventured in the pop scene and it’s made her the big star she is today. If she had stayed in R&B, not even experimenting different styles and sounds, I don’t think she would of lasted at all. However, I do think I remember reading P!nk not liking her original style and wanting to embrace pop, but her studio management forced her to stay like that but I love her pop music as much as I love her R&B music. I do wish she’d return to that, maybe not as a full album but in one or a couple of songs…but not yet of course as she’s experimenting as she’s done a country album with the lead singer out of a band (I can’t remember off the top of my head who it is though)
I'm not a massive Jessie J fan, i'm more a fan of her music than I am her. But I do love some of her "Who You Are" songs and the odd "Alive" song but other than that, I wouldn't buy her album or anything. Saying that, I did try and listen to Alive as I watched an interview of Jessie hyping it (like you would if it's your album) and I just didn't like any of it, save "Thunder" and "Wild." But I'll look into "Sweet Talker" as I love "Bang Bang."
Ooh, sounds interesting! I truly admire people who can create visual art, because I am really bad at drawing, painting, etc. even though it's something I love to do. I struggle drawing the simplest of things, and I can barely form a three-dimensional object, lol. So I really admire people who are good at art, because it's something I've never been good at, even though I've tried really hard to be good at. :P It's kinda the same with doctors/nurses/etc, I know I could never do what they do, and so I really admire them for actually being good at what they do. And paper mache sounds like a good idea, if it's done well, you could do something really cool!!
Haha, it's funny that you've been progressing more on the second episode than the first. Sometimes it's like that for me, too, where I'm more focused on a future episode than a current one.
Yes, I think you should only split up the episodes into two parts if you find a really good place to, because even though some people will find it annoying to read long episodes, I'm sure they'll find it more annoying to read a two-parter episode with the first half ending off on a low, anticlimatic point, if that makes sense.
I get what you mean, with comparing Melinda to Santana. In my fic, I reckon Jason was definitely like that for the first 10 or so episodes, and then towards the end of the series he really picked up as a major character.
Really? I wasn't sure you'd like Froot, it's way too quirky for most people. But I'm glad you liked it :) By the way, I'm very excited because Froot is on iTunes for pre-order, and all the tracklists have been confirmed. And there was also a muck-up on her website where the technicians accidentally left the links to the lyric pages for the new songs ACCESSIBLE for ANYONE, and since they have fixed that, although the lyrics are all over social media regardless, because people had saved them and sent them around. I feel bad for Marina, because people aren't meant to know all of the lyrics until the songs come out. I'm also really excited because she's doing this thing called "Froot of the Month" where she releases a new song each month up until April, when her album comes out, so we get six songs (including the title track, Froot) before the album actually comes out next year, which is great.
Yes, I love when artists re-invent themselves too, and P!nk is a great example. Honestly, I've loved basically everything she's put out, but I think my favourite genre/style she's done is pop. I can't really explain why, probably just because I think it suits her voice really well, and pop music is generally easier to like, if that makes sense.
I feel like a lot of artists are forced to be someone they are not, or stick to a genre or style that they personally feel doesn't suit them, or they personally just don't want to do. This is a random example (and you might not even know about them, or have heard about them at all), but Karmin (made up of Amy and Nick, you might know them from their most popular releases "Acapella" or "Brokenhearted") were forced to be really poppy on their album "Pulses", but have since broken away from their record label because they didn't like the sound they were being made to sing, and their most recent releases to be on their next album are really down to earth and they made all their songs themselves, without the help of a label, which is really hard to do. Even Marina revealed in her latest interview that her label wanted her to be more mainstream, and she agreed to change her style and her image quite a bit just to become more successful, but she's said that with her new album, Froot, she's finally done everything she's wanted to do, and not let anybody control her releases except herself.
Sorry for rambling on about artists you probably don't care about, lol :P Feel free to not reply to them, you probably have nothing to add, haha :)
Yeah, surprisingly, I'm actually not a MASSIVE Jessie J fan either. I loved "Who You Are", but then "Alive" came out, and I just felt it was lacking and it was really bland. Luckily, she's redeemed herself with "Sweet Talker", although I feel she changed her style quite a bit on some tracks, and she's tried to sound more mainstream, which is kinda annoying, but I still loved her last album. And like you said, I'm more of a fan of her music, than her as an artist/as a person. For me, the artists that really speak to me are the ones that I connect with not only through their music, on a higher personal level too.
Omg, watched the video. I literally was cracking up through the whole video. At first, I thought that was actually her singing, then I realised they'd just synced up new audio. OMG xP :D
Well, as you probably guessed, I'm best at slushie covers, but remember I can do any custom background you want if you send it to me when you've got requests. But I also have the resources for the following: dodgeballs, graduation hats, Madonna disco ball, Christmas ornaments/baubles, converse shoes (from the Glee Project) and the apples, although I'm not sure how good the quality of these edits will be. I'm willing to trial any of these if you wish for me to :) Also, I found my VERY old (but nevertheless functioning) blog post outlining the slushie/background colours/types, if you'd like to see:
To be honest, I don’t think I’m actually very good at Art. But I guess a lot of people say that, I think you’re always (me especially) critical of your own work but very in love with other people’s work. I’m not very good at three-dimensional objects either but I’m learning. For the 3-d mask, we’re doing animal masks and it’s got to be an animal you can get easy images for (you know from a farm, zoo or you house or a friend’s so cats, dogs, snakes, pigs, birds) I’m doing a cat mask but I’m going to do it in an exaggerative manner and I want to use paper mache. We can use anything from materials like cardboard, wire and stuff like that.
I think it’s just because the first episode is a lot of stage setting and focuses on a few characters whereas the second episode has more a defined plot following a theme and it’s centered on a bigger roster of characters. I’ve stopped writing Episode 2 as I’m waiting for a mash-up from Hinton and because I don’t want to rush. But I’m planning Episode 3 at the moment, which I love, because there are loads of moments for each character and the songlist is really eclectic.
I’m not going to think too much about it, not yet as it’s not even anywhere near the time but I’m leaning towards keeping the episode as one as like you say, Part One could end on an anticlimactic point.
Yeah, Jason felt really in the background and he didn’t have much lines either so I only felt I noticed him when he was mentioned but yeah in Arc 2, he definitely shined.
That’s really awful and such a bad thing as it could go to two ways, it could hurt the promotion of Froot but it could also get people talking. But yeah, that’s bad for Marina. If it was me, I’d be really annoyed with them technicians because now, you look at the lyrics and you already imagine what it’s going to sound like and then you finally get to listen to the song and it could completely different to what you imagined…in a bad way.But that Froot of the month idea sounds really cool.
I love how P!nk is venturing into country because it shows how talented she is and how big her range isbut I read an interview and she’s made it known, she’s still going to do pop songs. It makes me really happy to see how P!nk has progressed because yeah, ages ago around the time of “Lady Marmalade”, she was known and well established but it seemed people had more of a shine to Christina Aguilera or Britney…. but now, I feel P!nk is doing better than both of them, especially in the music category.
Yeah, I read Jessie J said she wanted to crack America with “Sweet Talker” so I guess that reasons with why her music seems more mainstream. But the reason I enjoyed songs from her first album is because it felt British, not all polished like the songs American artists usually do.
I knew you’d love it. When I’m feeling down, I watch that video as it delivers the laughs Everytime.
Yeah, I have that blog post on my bookmarks but I’ve not been on it for a while so thanks for reminding me of it.
YES, I can’t wait for the next episode. But working on other episodes before uploading is a great idea in the long run.
Hi Jack, sorry for not responding for A LONG TIME! Before I properly reply to your response, I need to warn you, this will be a VERY LONG POST, because I need to be honest with you about a few things...
Firstly, I'm cancelling my fan fic. I know it may seem really abrupt, disappointing & anticlimatic, but surely you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't see this coming, right? I mean, I only put out one episode in 2013, and one in 2014, and I haven't put any out since July 2014. I've been thinking about it for some time now, and I kept saying "No, just keep working on it" but I've come to a final decision and I don't want to work on it anymore.
Here are the reasons why:
1) I just have so little time to run it anymore. I get so much schoolwork & I never can manage time to write/plan/edit the fan fic anymore. I have exams this year & I really need to focus on them, especially for Maths, because I SUCK at Maths and if I don't concentrate and focus on what's important I'm going to fail....
2) I'm not in a good place right now to be honest. There's a lot of s*** going on in my life & I'm struggling to deal with all of this. I'll post about this further down since I don't want to cram up this section.
3) I've lost the passion I used to have regarding this series. I used to think about this wiki and the fan fic ALL the time, but now it only crosses my mind occassionaly. It's sad to say, but I just don't get excited to write for this series anymore. I open up a Word document & it feels like a chore, like I'm about to write another essay for an English class or something. I'm uninspired & I don't know 100% where I want to go with it all.
4) I finished the next episode & I was intending on posting it, but it's TERRIBLE. There is no excitement, drama, action. Nothing worth wasting anybody's time reading. The song selections barely matched the plot & the plot was just lacking in so many areas.
5) I noticed that a lot of the plots I had planned got VERY dark. Topics like suicide, death, disease, abandonment (is that a word?!) were being introduced into the series, and I don't like this, considering Glee is meant to be a relatively lighthearted series. I know I could just scrap a lot of these ideas, but without them, I'd have very little ideas left for the series.
6) No one even reads the fic anymore apart from you and perhaps occasionally Hinton.
7) I'm not consistent with posting.
I know these might sound like stupid excuses, and I know you are probably annoyed because you've invested a lot of your time into reading my fic & getting to know all the characters and whatnot, but I hope that you can understand that I have run out of good ideas & I just have lost the desire to continue the fan fic, and if I'm not excited about what I'm writing, it won't turn out very good in the end.
I'm thinking of summarising each episode briefly, explaining what I had planned to happen in each episode, because it'd be very anticlimatic if you never found out what happened to all the characters & the story! So keep an eye out for that, I might copy & paste my brief episode summaries from my Word document onto the wiki soon, and alter a few things to explain it a bit better.
I'll reply to your response in a second, but first I just wanted to elaborate on what I meant above about being in a bad place right now...
I'm hesitant to say this, but I'm only as straight as a circle (hopefully you understand what this means :P) and I'm scared to tell anyone in my life, because I feel like no one will understand. And at school (since I go to a Catholic school), there are lots of people who are "anti-gay" and in our Religion classes, we did a Sexuality unit, and we are being taught about how heterosexuality is the only "normal" form of a loving relationship & that any other type of relationship is "sinful" and "immoral" and it just bothers me & offends me, because it is so against what I stand for. I think most of my friends would be OK with my orientation, but there are some that I don't want to lose because they mean so much to me and I don't want to be judged. And I only have a small group of friends at school (because for some reason there are more people at my school who hate me than like me, so it's hard to make friends with people because everyone's already excluded me and casted me away) so I don't want to lose some of the few that I DO have.
+ On top of this, my great aunty's doctor has told us that her chances of her cancer treatment being successful is low, which scares me. Because I don't want to lose her... There's not much family left in my life anymore. My other great aunty just moved away to Melbourne, my grandma is a foul bitch and she's done lots of bad things to our family, all my other grandparents have passed away, and the rest of my family I haven't seen for a long time & don't know anything about because they live in other parts of the world. All that's left is my parents, sister, aunty, uncle & two cousins under 10 who have just started school.
Anyway, sorry for ranting, I'm just not in the best place right now and I don't really have anyone to talk to about all this, so sometimes when there is someone I feel comfortable talking to, I just blurt everything out. Don't worry about forming a long reply, there's probably not much to say. Anyhow, on with my replies to your post:
I know what you mean, we're often critical and analytical of our own work and often hate what we create, but when somebody else something, we love it because we just accept it for what it is.
I know that it might not be here for a while, but I am really excited to read your fan fic. It honestly used to make my day coming home from school or waking up in the morning seeing that a new episode of your fan fic had been posted!
Speaking of Marina, her entire album FROOT leaked, and two months before it was supposed to be sold! I feel really sorry for her. I hope her fans don't cancel their preorders just because they've got the leaks now, I know I certainly won't!
I agree, P!nk is so versatile and can adapt her voice to suit so many different styles/genres/moods, which is what I love about her! And I agree, I think she's definitely doing better than Britney or Christina now. Britney's last album "Britney Jean" was a total flop, in my opinion.
And sure, I can do an apple cover! But what would you like as the text/background? (Reminder that there's a link up above, to the blog I made a while ago with my cover arts)
Again, I'm SO sorry for cancelling my fic & for this extremely long reply, I just felt that I had a lot to catch you up on & I needed to be honest with you. I'll post the summaries of each episode soon, so stay tuned! :)
I’m really sad to hear this but not just because I REALLY loved your fic and you’re cancelling it but the fact you’ve lost your passion for writing. Writing’s meant to be therapeutic and it’s sad when this happens…don’t think about what you were going to put out, think about what you did put out. What you put out was really good and I can’t speak for anyone else but myself. I really enjoyed reading it, the characters were good, the storylines were good and you’re a good writer so I hope you don’t totally give up on writing. I understand what you mean though with not having any time, I’ve been the same and I keep doing the same thing, opening that word document up and nothing coming to mind. I’m not sad about the fan-fiction being cancelled because I don’t want you to put your all time into something when that time can be spent on your exams so don’t sweat it and it’s annoying that your readership went down because that could’ve worked out to be an incentive. But I’m not one too dwell but just don’t’ think about or regret your decision because you’ve made the right one.
I’d be very interested to hear your summaries of each episode and or maybe just a paragraph on how it was going to end like you said, but only when you find the time and not before. And about that episode you wrote, only release it if you feel comfortable with it. I’m not going to put pressure on you.I 100% understand your reasons and I don’t’ hate you for it.
I totally know what you mean on you only being as straight as a circle and I’m in the same boat.And I’m sorry but I don’t have any advice to impart but I understand your frustrations and it’s scary to think about and that’s why I don’t think about it too much. I don’t have any friends really, the only ones are at college and I don’t consider them “friend-friends”, just people I talk to and socialise there (like I don’t meet up with them outside of college) and I don’t know how they’d react. My male cousin who my friends know only because he was on my previous course came out as bisexual and they were surprised but the girl I’m closest to said it doesn’t bother her. But I don’t know if that’s just because she’s not close to him, like if it was I, would all that apply. + There’s a lesbian on our course and they accept her but there always seems to be an imbalance. Like people accept lesbians but don’t accept gays or people accept gays but don’t accept lesbians. It’s always irked me because I don’t understand how you can accept one but not the other. I’m also very close to my older sister but she can be homophobic. Also, when Sam Smith was on TV winning his awards, he thanked the man who broke-up with him because it inspired his album and my mum said “It just sound s wrong hearing a man say that”. So I’m quite boxed in aswell so I apologise for not being any help but I know you were hesitant, me too but it’s nice to know you can trust me with this.
I really hope your great aunty comes round for all of your sakes. No more tragedy is necessary. I don’t want to say a lot on this because I don’t want to say the wrong thing or put my foot in it but sometimes you think it’s going to go one way but you get a surprise and a miracle does happen and it goes the other way.
I don’t want to reply to the replies you gave to the things I said because that was ages ago but I don’t know if you’re still interested. But I’m still writing my fan-fiction, slowly but surely. I don’t know when it’ll be released but I hope I’ve still got a reader in you.
I’ve completed the second episode. The first episode is a quarter completed and I’m already working on the third and fourth episode.
And I just want to share the songlist for the first episode –
I Like It / The Only Girl In The World by Enrique Iglesias / Rihanna.
Slip by Stooshe.
Trouble by P!nk.
Touch Me (I Want Your Body) by Samantha Cox.
Never Had A Dream Come True by S Club 7.
Almost There from The Princess and The Frog.
Schadenfreude from Avenue Q.
Hair from Hair.
The Nicest Kids In Town from Hairspray.
People Like Us by Kelly Clarkson.
Tell me your honest opinion on the songlist. Also, if you want to know the songlist for either episode 2, 3 or 4 or all of them. Let me know and I have no problem in sharing what songs are happening.
Just want to end with; it’s so nice to hear from you again, even under the circumstances. It’s been a long time coming J
P.S. I’ve not read what I’ve written so I KNOW I made some errors.
Hello Jack! I am terribly sorry I am replying to this message from February up until now, I've just been so busy lately!! Hopefully you understand. Please let me know how you're doing... it has been a while since we've spoken, sorry about that!!
Firstly, thank you for those kind words regarding my writing! You've made me feel a lot better about cancelling the fic, which I felt quite bad for cancelling initially. I certainly won't give up on writing, it's something I am still passionate about, just unfortunately not for this fic in particular.
Today was my last day of the school term and all my exams + other assessments are over for now, and I have a couple weeks off school now so I should be posting summaries of each future episodes I had planned. I'm going to Melbourne in the second week of the holidays to see my great aunty who recently moved there so that should be fun. And I'm also going to be seeing the snow for the first time, which I'm very much looking forward to!
It's quite enlightening to hear that you're in the same boat as me, in terms of sexuality. My whole life I've felt confused about my sexuality and alone, but recently, I've started to feel a lot better about things actually. I came out to my best friends and they all took it really well. In fact, it's been the weirdest (but most enlightening) experience, because I found out that two of my best friends are both gay as well, which was a bit of a shock at first. I also found out one of my best friends has been secretly dating some guy from another school for almost a year now and he never told me or any one, really. It's been really nice to have a couple of friends who understand what I've gone through. This guy (who'd been seeing another guy and only recently told me about it) came out to the whole school, and most people have taken it pretty well (although tbh there are still some douches who love to be bigoted, for whatever reason) but as a whole it's made me feel a lot better about having to come out myself some day in the future.
I'm planning on telling my parents soon. My mum recently saw my best friend's 'coming out' post on Instagram and she basically had this little chat with me about how she's happy for my friend and she basially was saying how she doesn't care if someone is gay, bi, etc., as long as they're happy and have a good heart. So that's made me feel a lot better about one day having to come out to her, but at the same time I'm a bit worried about how my dad will react tbh. Anyway, I just need to come out to them, I'm sick of hiding my feelings and who I am and I need to change things. I want my parents (and everyone) to get to know me for who I really am and not for this 'fake' version of me. I also really don't want my parents to find out I'm gay through one of my friends accidentally spilling the beans, lol. I want to be able to say it to them face to face.
And yeah, I totally agree with what you said about how people accept gays but not lesbians, or vice versa. Like, it's a really stupid mentality. It's just like saying you accept someone with long fingernails, but not short fingernails - it's pretty stupid really. Hopefully people will open up to accepting everyone with time :)
I love the look of that song list, literally not a single song on there that I don't like - they're all amazing selections. You really do have an amazing taste in music and you never disappoint with song choices! Haha. Also, I will reply to your comments about your fan fic above where you posted another thread btw :)
Hope you're doing well and best of luck to you in terms of your coming out experience, whenever that may be. I'm afraid I can't impart much knowledge or advice to you on the topic myself either, as I'm still figuring out things myself, but just remember that things don't happen quickly. This whole experience is going to take time for both of us, and from what others have told me, not everyone will be accepting immediately, but usually they'll come to terms with things with time. :)
Hey :) So nice to hear from you again. I was worried because last time, it all didn't sound too promising. It's strange how you can care a lot for someone you've never met but I do, so hah :)
It was really easy for me to write that :) It's really nice to hear you won't give up on your writing as I think it's really good and from "In The Beginning" to the later ones, your writing has progressed so much, in big ways and small ways. If you were willing, I'd love you to perhaps help co-write on part of my fan-fiction, it doesn't even have to be a lot, maybe just an episode or whatever. If you were wiling to do that though, it would be in the second part of Season One, which is more in the future :)
That'll be so amazing for you to see :) (The snow)
Oh my god!!!! I'm so happy for you and it's great to hear you've been accepted by your friends and even to discover some of them are in the same boat is a bonus and really helps you and your confidence, no doubt :) Yeah, that's going to be hard because obviously your friends know now so it's even harder to keep it a secret, but I'm sure you'll do it in no time and it's great to hear that from your mum. It's so weird, Last time, I spoke to you, I didn't expect you to write back, saying you've done such a big step but I'm proud of you.
Well, the songs were kind of fixed because I wrote some of the scenes before I told you the song-list but the first episode has been split into two parts, 5 of them songs in that list aren't happening and have been replaced with new songs, but it's not all too different. The S Club song for example, has been replaced with another S Club song and I'm using a different P!nk song instead of trouble. I think the new choice of songs worked better but you have faith in my taste in music, so I'm sure you won't find them too bad.
No, the first episode isn't up. When I wrote this to you, I was finished with episode one and all set on releasing it but I think it'll be smarter of me to wait. EPISODE ONE and EPISODE THREE is complete. I'm halfway through finishing with EPISODE TWO. I'm also starting soon on EPISODE FOUR and there's 14 episodes in this part of Season One so I'm gonna just wait till they're all ready and release them weekly so in that time, I can write the second part. :)
Thank you ;) I hope it continues to get better and better for you.
I'm the same - sometimes I feel as if I care for people I've met online more than I do some people I know in real life, oops :P
I'm currently writing a story that I'm hoping will be the length of a novel within the next few years. It's kind of hard to explain, but basically, I'm not giving up on my writing, it's something I'm still extremely passionate about, and probably will be for eternity. I just had to move on from this series, it wasn't working.
And that sounds like a great idea - I'd love to co-write an episode or so for your fan fic if you want me to :)
Yeah, things are looking a bit brighter for me. It's just my dad that I'm scared to come out to, but everyone else that I've told so far have been quite unbothered by the matter tbh.
I have faith in your music taste, so whatever you've altered, I'm sure it'll work perfectly :)
I agree, I think it's probably better to wait until you have a few future episodes up your sleeve then there's not as much pressure with having write on a 'deadline', I guess you could say. That was probably the biggest issue with my fan fic: the release dates were all over the place. Like, I'd release a bunch of episodes right after one another, then it'd be months before the next episode came out. It was such a mess by the end, lol.
Also, I vaguely remember you asking me to make you some slushie covers, but I can't seem to find the message you sent. Would you mind sending me the list of songs + the design you wanted so I can make them, thanks :) (Unless it was just a dream I had that you sent me them, idk, sometimes I confuse my dreams with reality lol)
Aww that sounds cool :) I definetley understand what you mean. I cancelled PTS because the episode releases were all over the place and by time, I got round to writing the next one, it was like I was forcing it to happen. Before my fic, I was writing something original like a novel but It was truly bad. I cringe when I read past chapters.
I know this sounds weird but I wondered if you've seen Avenue Q? It's just that there is this one scene I desperately need to write and it's like an auditon scene...but I just can't seem to write it. The song I want is Schandefreude from Avenue Q because I feel it fits the character but because of don't know any background of the show and that's mentioned, I replaced it with Nick Jonas's "Jealous" which is a good song in itself, but doesn't have the desired effect. So if you've seen Avenue Q, you could write me this scene if you'd like (i'd send you all the nescescarry details)
It's going to be weird though when I finally do release them...because I started writing in April 2014 but it's set in September 2014 at the minute so things that were happening at the time (social media, films, tv shows, pop culture) are mentioned but by time, it's released - it'll feel dated. Oh well.
Aww that's good to hear.
Yeah, I did send you a message, asking for slushie covers...but I've decided I don't want them done yet because it's not near the time and I want a consistent design. When I have my slushie covers, i'd like the ones for episode 1 to be the same ones as all the episodes (if that makes sense) and I want the background to be star-like "Like No Matter How You Hard You Try" song covers instead of a basic one. So yeah, you definetley did not dream it :)
I've uploaded two different background onto the photos on this wiki. I'm torn between the two backgrounds. Depending which one is better - I'd like to be the background for all my slushie covers this season. Would that be able to work?
Actually, you could do a test run, using the two backgrounds with these song titles. With the golden stars background, I'd like number 25 slushie colour and the font i'd like is the same one you used for "No Matter How Hard You Try" . My fanfiction is called Glee: Don't Stop The Music.
I Like It / The Only Girl In The World
Born To Make You Happy
With the weird coloured background, i'd like same font as the one you used "No Matter How Hard You Try" but I don't know what colour slushie would work with that background so maybe you could just experiment and choose one :)
P.S. The reason the top comments of mine are just ... is because on computer, all the recent websites appear in tiles and this website was coming up and it was this board and I didn't want anyone in the house to click on it and see the conversations because it's intrusion. But I stopped when I realised you can just click the tiles off. Lol :)
P.S. 1: Just some info. In my fic. There's a mixture of new characters and characters from Paint The Sky, obviously slightly different. Some are more or less the same and others are different, with similiar elements to what came before.
The returning characters are Walker, Mary Lou, Melinda, Devonne, Arrow, Parrish and Spencer.
But so far - Melinda, Devonne, Spencer and Mary Lou have new names.
I also want to have permission to change Prim's middle name. The middle name would be shorter than Danielle and people would have the tendancy to call her by her middle/last name.
P.S. 2: I've not read all of the planned ideas for Season Two but most of what I've seen were really good ideas but I understand what you said about it becoming too dark and felt it was straying away from the initial concept. I was wondering If i'd be allowed to incorporate some of the stories from this fan-fiction into my fan-fiction. Not like a total copy and paste, I mean, obviously put my own stamp on it. It's fine If you're not okay with that :) Doesn't hurt to ask.
Hey Jack! Thanks for letting me know. I'll try and get those things done real soon. There's still a lot to be done on the wiki, but eventually everything will be done and up to date. The biggest issues are character biographies, and song lyrics on the song pages. At least both are pretty straightforward and once I'm done, I can move on.
Also, thanks for adding the songs onto the Season One page for the last two eps. :)
I'm not sure. I kind of thought that "Full Episode" wasn't the best thing to put in the brackets, but I can't really think of anything better. I might use "Script" instead, I'll just have to have a think in case there's something else that sounds good. :)
Sure, of course that's ok with me. I'm astounded she got accepted to begin with. :P
Thanks for understanding. She was such a good audition and though i accepted, i didn't have much of a storyline for her...just little things planned for her...but actually, now i've made her join the Unitards prior to auditions, i've got this amazing and big storyline planned for her...so it works for the better, i guess. :)
Hey Jack! Sorry, I will reply to your other messages in a moment. I tend to read messages and tell myself I will reply later, but forget.
No, the picture is not of me. I look younger than the guy in my pic, and I have brown hair. The the person on the right is Joey Graceffa, who is an American youtuber who makes some really funny videos, does song covers and remix video clips, he also does gaming videos and daily vlogging (blogging but in video form each day). Also, he's about to make a web-series called Storytellers, which sounds like mystery type genre episodes. The girl on the left is one of his friends Whitney. He's kind of a celebrity and obvs I've never met him before. He has tonnes of videos, he's been vlogging for a while. He was also on the Amazing Race and came 5th (i think, i didn't actually watch it) he's got a 'draw my life' video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnBPSBmVIo
Sorry for the long message there, didn't realize I went on forever, I just think he's really inspirational to see him overcome so much in his life and now be in the position he is.
Btw, i had to delay the posting of the new ep because I've had heaps of homework and I never got to finish part 2 of ep 1, which was what I was aiming for. Also, I've been designing the slushie song covers, doing planning for stories/character intros this season, and also doing the episode banner things.It will definitely be posted this weekend, and I mean it this time
Yeah, the only place I've posted my pics is on Instagram but I'm on private and I only let people I know follow me to view my pics. If you have it, you can follow me. My username is jtg123omg , although I'm not sure if you do have it. :P
Yeah, i'm almost done part 2, once that's done i will post part 1. And I will definitely have part 2 done sometime this weekend.
Btw, i have end of term holidays for two weeks, in four weeks, so i can get even further ahead these holidays. I would have done work for the fic last holidays, but obvsiously I was in Singapore and Malaysia.
Aww, good luck, hope all goes well. Will be thinking of you :)
No, i don't have Instagram..or Twitter. I'm not really into those things. I mean i have a Facebook but that's only used for family things, and it's private anyway :)
Cool :) I'm gonna hopefully begin at least writing some of Ep 1 this weekend. You know, how Glee in Season 1 released the Pilot in May and then released 12 eps in September. That's kind of going to be my way too.
I've done it and it wasn't as bad as i thought. I was so nervous but when i woke up today, the feeling had gone..but there was SO MANY people but i got talking to some new people so least i talked to someone :)
Ok, I understand, fine by me. I'm not really into those things that much either, I prefer my life to be kept a bit more private as well.
Sounds great. So, if you're having a break after the pilot ep, how long do you think it will be? Sorry for asking so early on, I know you probably haven't planned an exact timeline yet, I'm just curious. :P
That's good, that you've got talking to some people and that you're not feeling as nervous anymore about it.
I feel really bad that I generally take forever to reply to your messages, I'm just always so busy. Thank God term three holidays are coming up in three weeks for me! It'll give me some time to catch up on my writing even more and plan more for the end of the season, because honestly, not too much is planned for arc three, but I suppose as the story continues, more ideas will stem from previous stories.
Btw, episode 1, part 1 is going to be released tomorrow. I have finally finished part 2 (except for the final editing but I like to do that right before I post the ep so that what's happening in the ep is clear in my mind for when I post). I'm doing the final edit on part 1 right now. :)
I've not planned an exact timeline as nothing's written yet, but the break will be about 3-4 months. The episode amount is 13 episodes (and it'll stay 13) so in this break, i'll be able to get about half of that set done :)
One of them reminds me of Devonne. I can tell, she'll inspire Siobhan :) *Hope that doesn't sound creepy(
You should feel bad, hahaha, i'm just kidding. That'll be good. Don't stress about Arc 3, when you've not even done Arc 1. :)
Yay, that sounds great. Hope it's official but i may be able to read it, and leave a short comment...but i'll leave a full comment later on, if that's ok.
And as of Episode One, i know the songs, i know the basics but to put it together is what i've got to do now :) But i'm gonna take it slow, as i want it to be perfect but it'll be out this year, so don't worry. :)
I didn't think you would have had a full timeline yet. 13 sounds good amount of episodes, as 22 episodes can really drag out (btw, season three of my fic is definitely not going to be 22 episodes, I'm thinking maximum 15 episodes)
I don't see how that's creepy at all. That's great that you're inspired by other characters.
Yeah, I'm not really stressing about Arc 3... just yet. :P I'm thinking Arc 1 (episodes 1-8) will be about dealing with the stories from the previous season, as well as introducing in a few new characters and stories that then lead into Arc 2 (which is eps 9-14). This arc will introduce a few valuable new characters too, and it will be quite dramatic. Arc 3 (being 15-22), deals with sorting out the dramatic storyline, but mostly with the graduate's stories and how they deal with making something of their futures.
Sounds great. It'll definitely be up this week (hopefully tomorrow, but if not, then this week sometime)
That's good. I mean, honestly, either way, I will still read no matter how many exact episodes there are, but I think 13 is around about a good number for a season.
Yes, things like college will always create ideas.
Well, there is definitely a prom ep, and I'm hoping for a senior ditch day. However, neither are intended to be major stories. I'm probably including both but I think the centre of the story will always rest otherwise.
It's okay. But it just got a little overwhelming because people didn't like the lenght, which made me not like the lenght, then scenes got cut :)
Well, you're gonna get a super long episode. This episode has 8 songs. But after Ep 2, there will be fewer songs :)
P.S. Done my first week at College. I kind of like it, it was good when we got into the stuff at the end of the week...though i don't like some people on my course..but oh well. But it's providing me with so much inspiration for my new fic :)
That makes sense, hopefully people won't mention that this season. :P
8 songs? That's not too bad. The first part of ep 1 of my fic has 7 songs, part 2 has 7 as well. And yeah, I personally like a lower amount of songs, but sometimes there are so many good songs you want to use that fit the story and you want to cut any, so I know what you mean.
Sounds brilliant, I'm glad you're enjoying most of it. It sounds really fun from what you've said so far. About those people that you don't really like, well, I guess, that can kind of happen anywhere in life. The reality is that not everyone is nice and not everyone gets along. As long as you don't let them get in the way of what you're there to do, that's good. :)
Honestly, I thought it'd be more than 3 days, but I suppose the hours add up in the end. How many more weeks are there?
I'm sure it will be amazing. Your writing always impresses. Btw, when will the cast list for your new fic be posted? Just curious as to whether you've decided on everyone yet.
Btw, on the topic of auditions, I think I might need to hold some for season three, as obviously there are characters that will have graduated and I will need new characters for them to interact with out in the real world. When do you think I should hold them? I'm not sure whether I should hold them halfway between this season, or right at the end? It's not a really big deal, I'm just trying to plan ahead a bit. S2 doesn't introduce too many new characters at all, only 3 new main-ish ones that have to be introduced now to fill up the spaces in S3.
Okay, that's great. I was just curious. :) In fact, now that you say it, I think you might have mentioned that once before somewhere.
I'll think about it, but yes, I most likely will hold them halfway through the season then. I suppose that gives me more time to plan for S3 when the time gets closer and that way I can lead up to any events that may take place with the new characters, possibly.
I'm not sure, for some reason, I thought it'd be every day.
Yeah, it's like that here in Australia too. None of our colleges, etc. are stay overnight programs, unless they're boarding schools (obvs.) How is the grading organized at your schools in England? In Australia, we have primary school (kindergarten to grade 6 or 7 - can depend), and then high school is years 7/8 to year 12. I'm guessing it's probably similar, as Australia is a Commonwealth and has been run similarly to England in terms of government, although, we only have a prime minister, no monarchs.
I don't think rushing the eps will be an issue. I'm kind of a perfectionist. I hate posting my eps if they aren't as good as I can make them. I know my writing isn't always brilliant, and I think that's because I kinda don't always have fully planned ideas, and sometimes I'm making things up as I go along, but honestly, I can't see myself rushing ahead being too big of an issue, because as I do like things to be the best they can be, which obviously means I take quite a while to get eps posted.
No. It's a part-time course, apparently. But then again, i heard my art tutor say it was a full-time course but i think it's only 3 days, due to budget cuts, because i've heard it used to be more :)
I really don't know the grades for Kindergarten as i've not got my thinking cap on. But at Secondary school, you're year 7 up into year 11. :)
That is very true :) I'm really nervous about my episodes, as i really wanna start writing, but i don't wanna (if that makes sense) Because i know they're be parts which won't have any sense or i change along the way.
You know, when you have a plot planned and then you cut it, that's what i mean :)